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Istiaq Mian's avatar

This is great. Helpful for any story, short or long. I liked this tidbit "a point where the character faces a tough decision between two bad options"

I'm a fan of your work Renee. Will follow along.

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Renee Fountain's avatar

Thank you, Istiaq. I'm glad it spoke to you.

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Steph Rae Moran's avatar

Great tips! This is perfect timing as I'm about to begin editing my WIP. Thanks!

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Renee Fountain's avatar

Good luck, hope it helps.

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Richard Donnelly's avatar

"Each scene is a building block" Yes. One can never take the reader's interest for granted.

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Renee Fountain's avatar

That’s for sure!

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Kim Franck's avatar

Ha! I feel so called out-I am so guilty of info dumping in the first few pages. For exactly the reasons you state. But the advice on the crisis of decision making is really helpful and I think will help shift my story. I appreciate your straightforward advice!

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Renee Fountain's avatar

You’re very welcome, Kim. I’m glad the article gave you a different perspetive.

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Vincent's avatar

sounds like the old adage I was taught - there should never be an 'and then' between notecards, only a 'therefore'. As in, whatever happens in the previous scene causes the next. You shouldn't go from one scene to the next without a reason.

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Renee Fountain's avatar

That's a good one, Vincent.

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Tini Wider's avatar

I love the checklist!!!

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Renee Fountain's avatar

Glad it helped, Tini.

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Noor Rahman's avatar

100% agree with all your points Renee. But this is why when I read books that lacks these things, especially something as basic as the hero having a goal for the scene, I am flummoxed as to how they got published, let alone the awards and praise. I'm currently reading the Immortal King Rao and people seem to fall over themselves about the beautiful writing, and it was a finalist for the Pulitzer. But the scenes are long and boring with no goal, conflict, tension or anything. There's useless scenes of a protagonist being bottle-fed milk and wandering around an abandoned island while sharing background facts about how her father invented technologies and was ousted from the board of his tech company. It just seems so poorly designed. Instead of background info dumps, the author could have written actual scenes. But she didn't. And yet all the adoration. It's stuff like this that completely stumps me in understanding story and writing.

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Renee Fountain's avatar

Noor,

I absolutely agree with you on this. I wish we could meet with the editor and ask what is it about this book they found so captivating. Sometimes the subjectivity reaches a whole new level. It would also be great if we could find someone who loved the book and get their input on it. I haven't/won't read it, so I can't provide my thoughts.

I think timing and mindset have a lot to do with how you perceive a book. There are a few I need to go back and read now that I'm older to see if I have a different take.

I remember a few years ago -- there was a popular male author and he wrote thick books. I cannot remember his name...He wrote a few books. One book was called the Historian or History something and it took place back in prairie days. My mom loved the book. I saw everybody with the book. I couldn't read it. I remember telling my mother it took me 20 minutes just to read about him and his remaining kids trudging through the forrest to put his deceased infant on top of his wife's grave... or something along those lines. I gave up in the first few chapters. Meanwhile it's a best-seller and people loved it. Maybe if I read it now it would be different...

I wish I had the answer. Sometimes when I read something as an agent and think "this is absolutley not for me, it'll probably be a best-seller"...

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Noor Rahman's avatar

This. I feel so seen, thank you!

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Norman T. Leonard's avatar

Great stuff, as usual!

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Colin Cerniglia's avatar

Thank you for the checklist, Renee! I am going to print it out and put it next to me as I work on PAPILIO. I was šŸ’Æ guilty of too many details without purpose that made my writing very clunky. I’ve worked hard to fix it but it’ll be better to have more of a system in place to edit versus relying on my biased mind. Thank you again!

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Renee Fountain's avatar

Colin, it hits the main points, so it should help.

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Susi Graf's avatar

Very useful, thank you!!

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